I just posted the following on the Lib Dem voice thread that can be found here, and it was deleted by moderator Andy Boddington, who has also banned me from commenting on the site, because “there must be a bingo card for this somewhere, and I suspect you’d have got a full house by now” is “abusive and unacceptable”.
I quite agree. What size and shape anyone is is nobody’s business but their own.
I have never said that you have no right to voice your opinion. What I *have* said is that the opinion you have is over things that are none of your business, and that by stating your opinion you are causing real, actual harm to real, actual people. I have also, you will notice, actually taken the time and trouble to debate the few substantive points you have made, and provided citations for the more controversial claims I have made; a courtesy you have not bothered with yourself. You’ve instead chosen to interpret disagreement as an attempt to silence you, yet another in the wearying list of debating tactics used by those who wish to claim the moral high ground for themselves while continuing to spout harmful nonsense (there must be a bingo card for this somewhere, and I suspect you’d have got a full house by now).
As for the NHS “argument”, it is at best disingenuous. I engage in various horribly risky activities like drinking coffee, eating biscuits, crossing the road, and staying up past my bedtime. All of these activities have the potential to harm my health in some way, and yes, I hope that should they do so I will receive whatever treatment for them exists, even if it costs the NHS money.
But I also hope that those people who engage in a whole swathe of other horribly risky activities that I *don’t* do — like smoking, or drinking alcohol, or driving cars, or playing rugby, or drinking tea, or having sex with multiple partners, or owning a cat, all of which can *also* cause harm to people’s health — will receive medical treatment if and when those things cause them harm.
And unless you are the single most risk-averse person in the whole country, that applies to you as well. You do risky things that may harm your health, and if they do, you’ll be able to get treatment for them, partly paid for by people who *don’t* do those particular risky things.
I mean, you could, if you want, be consistent, and say all those things are also your business, but for myself I actually *like* the idea of people being able to take risks, without having their every deviation from a norm of expected bodily type (or indeed conformity to an expected body type in the case of the average-sized women who are apparently so concerning to you) or behaviour be considered wrong, but still having a publicly-funded safety net there to catch them. Call me a hopelessly naive utopian, if you will, but I think that sounds like a rather good idea myself…
ETA: If you want to know some of why I think this is important, see Jennie Rigg’s rather marvellous post here