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	<title>Comments on: Pop-Drama: I Cross The Void Beyond The Mind or A Man Is The Sum Of His Memories, A Time Lord Even More So</title>
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		<title>By: diffrentcolours</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re-reading this because you linked to it from a later post, I can&#039;t help but think of the &quot;reconstructing from amnesia&quot; parts as being reminiscent of a Spectrum computer game called &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ID_(video_game)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;iD&lt;/a&gt;.

In this &quot;game&quot; you had to interrogate (using some fairly sophisticated text parsing for the time) some kind of time-travelling entity, which has been present (possibly deliberately) at several pivotal moments in human history, often influencing events by taking a particular inanimate form. The one example that springs to mind is that iD was a reed that a young Adolf Hitler grabbed to save himself from drowning when he fell into a river as a child. However, iD rarely seems sure what it has been in the past, and its statements change over time, not least in relation to what you have to say to it.

I&#039;m sure that if I replayed it as an adult I&#039;d find it desperately simplistic, but as a child it was magical!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re-reading this because you linked to it from a later post, I can&#8217;t help but think of the &#8220;reconstructing from amnesia&#8221; parts as being reminiscent of a Spectrum computer game called <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ID_(video_game)" rel="nofollow">iD</a>.</p>
<p>In this &#8220;game&#8221; you had to interrogate (using some fairly sophisticated text parsing for the time) some kind of time-travelling entity, which has been present (possibly deliberately) at several pivotal moments in human history, often influencing events by taking a particular inanimate form. The one example that springs to mind is that iD was a reed that a young Adolf Hitler grabbed to save himself from drowning when he fell into a river as a child. However, iD rarely seems sure what it has been in the past, and its statements change over time, not least in relation to what you have to say to it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that if I replayed it as an adult I&#8217;d find it desperately simplistic, but as a child it was magical!</p>
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		<title>By: A Terrible Idea I Need Talking Out Of &#171; Sci-Ence! Justice Leak!</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Terrible Idea I Need Talking Out Of &#171; Sci-Ence! Justice Leak!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the comments to my Doctor Who Pop-Drama post he wrote: Andrew, I’ve been thinking about heroic hyping the X-Men pretty much all year, but have [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew&#8217;s Doctor Who &#171; A Trout In The Milk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew&#8217;s Doctor Who &#171; A Trout In The Milk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But once again it&#8217;s one of these. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: pillock</title>
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		<dc:creator>pillock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://wyattearp2999.blogspot.com/2009/11/pop-drama-doctor-who.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Justin has a Who&lt;/a&gt;, by the way...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://wyattearp2999.blogspot.com/2009/11/pop-drama-doctor-who.html" rel="nofollow">Justin has a Who</a>, by the way&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pillock</title>
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		<dc:creator>pillock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They sure do!  grumble grumble hypertime grumble...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They sure do!  grumble grumble hypertime grumble&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Hickey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Hickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if you read my &lt;a href=&quot;http://andrewhickey.info/the-hyperposts/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;hyperpost&lt;/a&gt; series of posts, but I touched on some of that stuff there, in what some would say was excruciatingly tedious detail. It&#039;s a similar thing to what I&#039;m thinking of doing, but instead of saying &quot;Everything&#039;s true&quot;, it&#039;s &quot;Nothing is true, everything is permissible&quot;. The two are often functionally the same, but have different feels to them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if you read my <a href="http://andrewhickey.info/the-hyperposts/" rel="nofollow">hyperpost</a> series of posts, but I touched on some of that stuff there, in what some would say was excruciatingly tedious detail. It&#8217;s a similar thing to what I&#8217;m thinking of doing, but instead of saying &#8220;Everything&#8217;s true&#8221;, it&#8217;s &#8220;Nothing is true, everything is permissible&#8221;. The two are often functionally the same, but have different feels to them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alex S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They did go past amnesia at times and into something very like this idea of the fractured timeline. The last Eighth Doctor book, The Gallifrey Chronicles by the excellent Lance Parkin, managed to incorporate the Doctor&#039;s status as a fictional character, established that the Comic Relief Curse Of Fatal Death and the website&#039;s Richard E Grant animations were both just as canonical as Eccleston, and referenced details from all sorts of other out-of-continuity offshoots with transparent glee. Basically, the same logic as Grant Morrison&#039;s Hypertime - if it&#039;s cool, then it&#039;s part of the story, because getting hung up on the continuity details is no fun. 
(I think the audio Zagreus implied something fairly similar, but that was such a mess that it doesn&#039;t make such a compelling case)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They did go past amnesia at times and into something very like this idea of the fractured timeline. The last Eighth Doctor book, The Gallifrey Chronicles by the excellent Lance Parkin, managed to incorporate the Doctor&#8217;s status as a fictional character, established that the Comic Relief Curse Of Fatal Death and the website&#8217;s Richard E Grant animations were both just as canonical as Eccleston, and referenced details from all sorts of other out-of-continuity offshoots with transparent glee. Basically, the same logic as Grant Morrison&#8217;s Hypertime &#8211; if it&#8217;s cool, then it&#8217;s part of the story, because getting hung up on the continuity details is no fun.<br />
(I think the audio Zagreus implied something fairly similar, but that was such a mess that it doesn&#8217;t make such a compelling case)</p>
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		<title>By: Response to the Doctor Who Responses (Pop-Drama 2.5) &#171; Sci-Ence! Justice Leak!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Response to the Doctor Who Responses (Pop-Drama 2.5) &#171; Sci-Ence! Justice Leak!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (Pop-Drama&#160;2.5) By Andrew Hickey  I&#8217;ve been away a few days, and the responses to the Doctor Who post have brought up some very interesting points, so I thought I&#8217;d go through those I&#8217;ve [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (Pop-Drama&nbsp;2.5) By Andrew Hickey  I&#8217;ve been away a few days, and the responses to the Doctor Who post have brought up some very interesting points, so I thought I&#8217;d go through those I&#8217;ve [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tilt Araiza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tilt Araiza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a moment I thought that photo was Frank Randle.

You really need to get hooked on Public Eye.  Its relevance to Dr Who is that the lead character is an incredibly charismatic problem solver and yet on paper is a cypher.  Frank Marker is totally a confection of remarkable deeds and remarkable acting, but his past is (largely) unspoken.  The relevant bits of conversation we had years ago were my handwave to make the Doctor&#039;s history and identity mysterious by virtue of being null (fortunately, you haven&#039;t reproduced the meat of my relaunch pitch which was very much poor man&#039;s Rod Serling).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a moment I thought that photo was Frank Randle.</p>
<p>You really need to get hooked on Public Eye.  Its relevance to Dr Who is that the lead character is an incredibly charismatic problem solver and yet on paper is a cypher.  Frank Marker is totally a confection of remarkable deeds and remarkable acting, but his past is (largely) unspoken.  The relevant bits of conversation we had years ago were my handwave to make the Doctor&#8217;s history and identity mysterious by virtue of being null (fortunately, you haven&#8217;t reproduced the meat of my relaunch pitch which was very much poor man&#8217;s Rod Serling).</p>
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		<title>By: pillock</title>
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		<dc:creator>pillock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doggone it, I actually &lt;i&gt;can&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; do that one...it&#039;s my friend Ed&#039;s big idea, not mine!

Sigh, back to the drawing board...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doggone it, I actually <i>can&#8217;t</i> do that one&#8230;it&#8217;s my friend Ed&#8217;s big idea, not mine!</p>
<p>Sigh, back to the drawing board&#8230;</p>
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