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	<title>Comments on: Hypertime, Continuity, Doctor Who, The Prismatic Age Etc. (Prelude &#8211; On The Subject Of Canon)</title>
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		<title>By: You And Me And CoIE &#171; A Trout In The Milk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[You And Me And CoIE &#171; A Trout In The Milk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 09:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Andrew wading into his massive Hyperpost Canon Cycle (hooray, Andrew!), the idea was bound to come up eventually: that Marv Wolfman&#8217;s 1986 [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Mindless Ones &#187; Blog Archive &#187; See you later, Aggro Gator</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mindless Ones &#187; Blog Archive &#187; See you later, Aggro Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 5 posts for the price of one! Andrew Hickey&#8217;s hyperpost continues apace. The topics, which he&#8217;s attacking from multiple and [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 11:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s what I was thinking too.  A bit grim and gritty?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what I was thinking too.  A bit grim and gritty?</p>
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		<title>By: pillock</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 11:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yikes, started reading it a couple days ago...but got called away.

Will restart!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes, started reading it a couple days ago&#8230;but got called away.</p>
<p>Will restart!</p>
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		<title>By: pillock</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 11:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmm...sounds a touch &quot;realistic&quot; for my liking...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230;sounds a touch &#8220;realistic&#8221; for my liking&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Hickey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Hickey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 11:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where three = six, obviously...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where three = six, obviously&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Hickey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Hickey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 10:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See, I&#039;m fine with that - though Big Finish and I believe many of the novels do the same kind of thing - my problems with the Welsh series come down to three things:

First, and most important, the character of the Doctor is simply nothing like the character as ever portrayed before the new series. I found the character of the Doctor interesting and entertaining, the new character is a tedious little tit.

Secondly, there&#039;s a sneering, contemptuous attitude to much of the Welsh show which I just don&#039;t like and find it impossible to get past.

Thirdly, while the good series had its plot holes, and plenty of them, half the new series episodes I&#039;ve seen don&#039;t even gesture at any kind of plot logic - things don&#039;t happen for any comprehensible reason, they just happen at random.

Fourth, there&#039;s a huge lack of imagination in the new series - Davies in particular seems to think that all history was just a dress rehearsal for the present day, which is the peak of all possible cultures, and even if you wait twenty billion years people will still be listening to Britney Spears and watching reality TV.

Fifth, the show has no moral centre - the &#039;Doctor&#039; falling in love with Madam du Pompadour, one of the most disgusting human beings ever to have lived. And I heard that in an episode I didn&#039;t watch, the &#039;Doctor&#039; points out that his companion, while complaining about slavery, wears clothes made by slaves - but then immediately backs down when told it&#039;s not fair. 

And sixth, I find the obsession with Special People Who Are Born Special And So Don&#039;t Have To Do Anything Special Because They Just *ARE* Special, OK? to be absolutely repugnant. 

The proper series veered between fairly poor and extremely good, but I find the new series horribly, *horribly* offensive, on both an aesthetic and a moral level.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, I&#8217;m fine with that &#8211; though Big Finish and I believe many of the novels do the same kind of thing &#8211; my problems with the Welsh series come down to three things:</p>
<p>First, and most important, the character of the Doctor is simply nothing like the character as ever portrayed before the new series. I found the character of the Doctor interesting and entertaining, the new character is a tedious little tit.</p>
<p>Secondly, there&#8217;s a sneering, contemptuous attitude to much of the Welsh show which I just don&#8217;t like and find it impossible to get past.</p>
<p>Thirdly, while the good series had its plot holes, and plenty of them, half the new series episodes I&#8217;ve seen don&#8217;t even gesture at any kind of plot logic &#8211; things don&#8217;t happen for any comprehensible reason, they just happen at random.</p>
<p>Fourth, there&#8217;s a huge lack of imagination in the new series &#8211; Davies in particular seems to think that all history was just a dress rehearsal for the present day, which is the peak of all possible cultures, and even if you wait twenty billion years people will still be listening to Britney Spears and watching reality TV.</p>
<p>Fifth, the show has no moral centre &#8211; the &#8216;Doctor&#8217; falling in love with Madam du Pompadour, one of the most disgusting human beings ever to have lived. And I heard that in an episode I didn&#8217;t watch, the &#8216;Doctor&#8217; points out that his companion, while complaining about slavery, wears clothes made by slaves &#8211; but then immediately backs down when told it&#8217;s not fair. </p>
<p>And sixth, I find the obsession with Special People Who Are Born Special And So Don&#8217;t Have To Do Anything Special Because They Just *ARE* Special, OK? to be absolutely repugnant. </p>
<p>The proper series veered between fairly poor and extremely good, but I find the new series horribly, *horribly* offensive, on both an aesthetic and a moral level.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Hickey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Hickey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 10:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, but it&#039;s not my graphic - you should read the linked article...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, but it&#8217;s not my graphic &#8211; you should read the linked article&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Terence Eden</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Terence Eden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 10:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All canon is, essentially, a theological argument. And is equally pointless. No ineffable being exists to have created a single body work. 

What it comes down to is what we can trick our brain into accepting and rejecting. 

I&#039;d like to tell you why you&#039;re wrong about Nu-Who - and show you what it bring to the canon. 

I think many people see only the Fairy Tail and not the Moral. 

Take, say, Hansel and Grettle. Living in crushing poverty, the parents attempt infanticide. It goes horribly wrong and the kids are abducted. The abductor abuses them - physically and mentally. Eventually she tries to kill them and eat them. If memory serves, she try to get Grettle to commit fratricide. So the children murder their abuser. 

The children then return to their abusive parents where, no doubt, the cycle of violence continues. 

That is one messed up story. Must most people only remember the breadcrumbs and gingerbread cottage. 

The story of Doctor Who is of a man who abducts young people (usually women), infiltrates their minds, consistently puts them in harms way while pretending he doesn&#039;t know the way home. 

Nu-Who makes this more explicit. Sure, it wraps it up with lots of eye candy, school-yard humour and twee resolutions. That&#039;s what a lot of people focus on - but they&#039;re missing the forest for the trees. 

There are a lot of negative comments about the reliance on the companions&#039; families. This ignores the missing part of the canon - what happens to Tegan, Sarah Jane, Leela also happens to their families. If their families aren&#039;t affected by their disappearance, why should we be affected by their impending death?

What happens to Tegan once she runs away from the Doctor? Mentally scared, alone is a world that she doesn&#039;t recognise, no friends, no family and unable to talk about her PTSD without being sectioned. 

That&#039;s what Nu-Who adds to the canon. It shows the aftermath. Classic Who stories end with our heroes dematerilaising - Nu Who shows the horrors faced by those left to clean up the mess. 

IMHO]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All canon is, essentially, a theological argument. And is equally pointless. No ineffable being exists to have created a single body work. </p>
<p>What it comes down to is what we can trick our brain into accepting and rejecting. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to tell you why you&#8217;re wrong about Nu-Who &#8211; and show you what it bring to the canon. </p>
<p>I think many people see only the Fairy Tail and not the Moral. </p>
<p>Take, say, Hansel and Grettle. Living in crushing poverty, the parents attempt infanticide. It goes horribly wrong and the kids are abducted. The abductor abuses them &#8211; physically and mentally. Eventually she tries to kill them and eat them. If memory serves, she try to get Grettle to commit fratricide. So the children murder their abuser. </p>
<p>The children then return to their abusive parents where, no doubt, the cycle of violence continues. </p>
<p>That is one messed up story. Must most people only remember the breadcrumbs and gingerbread cottage. </p>
<p>The story of Doctor Who is of a man who abducts young people (usually women), infiltrates their minds, consistently puts them in harms way while pretending he doesn&#8217;t know the way home. </p>
<p>Nu-Who makes this more explicit. Sure, it wraps it up with lots of eye candy, school-yard humour and twee resolutions. That&#8217;s what a lot of people focus on &#8211; but they&#8217;re missing the forest for the trees. </p>
<p>There are a lot of negative comments about the reliance on the companions&#8217; families. This ignores the missing part of the canon &#8211; what happens to Tegan, Sarah Jane, Leela also happens to their families. If their families aren&#8217;t affected by their disappearance, why should we be affected by their impending death?</p>
<p>What happens to Tegan once she runs away from the Doctor? Mentally scared, alone is a world that she doesn&#8217;t recognise, no friends, no family and unable to talk about her PTSD without being sectioned. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s what Nu-Who adds to the canon. It shows the aftermath. Classic Who stories end with our heroes dematerilaising &#8211; Nu Who shows the horrors faced by those left to clean up the mess. </p>
<p>IMHO</p>
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		<title>By: pillock</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pillock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 10:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can&#039;t wait!  Brilliant &quot;Who Timeline Graphic&quot;, damn it!.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t wait!  Brilliant &#8220;Who Timeline Graphic&#8221;, damn it!.</p>
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