Comments on: An Open Letter To My American Friends About The NHS

By: Holly

Holly — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 07:15:07 +0000

Functionally they are, yes. Not only for reasons like huge advertising budgets, but also because insurance companies are being more selective about what they cover, employment benefits are much less likely to include things like eye doctors and dentists than they used to, people’s insurance premiums are going up so their co-pays go up, and the rates at which prescription medications are charged at has changed so that expensive and rare drugs have become much, much more expensive in some cases.

By: pillock

pillock — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:42:43 +0000

A hint would be to look at where the money that’s being spent in the system is going. Why are there waiting lists? Because of how much money we’re spending? Are Canadians harder to treat than Brits or Danes, is that the problem?

You gloss over exactly what she glosses over, only she knows why she’s doing it. And so do I. You could as well, if you cared to find out.

Okay, I guess I’m done.

By: pillock

pillock — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:32:40 +0000

Aha! Then he was lucky, after all!

By: pillock

pillock — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:32:10 +0000

It is not. If she were arguing against the system, she would be advocating the dumping of the system (because it doesn’t work) in favour of another system (because it would).

I notice Andrew’s jettisoned you, so I won’t go on to an empty room. But you might consider that this woman is not saying quite what you think she’s saying, in more ways than one.

By: Andrew Hickey

Andrew Hickey — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:28:29 +0000

I’m afraid he’s tried my patience too much. I’ve banned him…

By: pillock

pillock — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:27:47 +0000

It is NOT COOL to say there are arguments, and not give the arguments. “Everybody knows it” doesn’t work when you’re in a room where most people disagree with you.

What is unlucky is that you are trying to get out of this, and I am not willing to let you.

Well…not yet, anyway.

By: Andrew Hickey

Andrew Hickey — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:24:20 +0000

“If its insulting Pillock to point that out (and yes, I feel comfortable inferring from his statements that he tends towards that viewpoint), well…unlucky.”

Then I feel *perfectly* comfortable inferring from *your* statements that you’re a troll. Plonk.

By: bjm

bjm — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:22:00 +0000

I guess not. She’s saying that the system (as is) is unsustainable. Isn’t that an argument against the system (as is)?

By: bjm

bjm — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:20:54 +0000

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By: pillock

pillock — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:19:54 +0000

BJM, none of that — not one word — constitutes an argument against the Canadian health-care system. Do you understand this point I’m making?