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		<title>By: Zom</title>
		<link>http://andrewhickey.info/2009/06/25/a-tale-of-two-telephone-companies/comment-page-1/#comment-2296</link>
		<dc:creator>Zom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor you, Andrew. I&#039;ve heard far too many tales of organisational fuckedness on the the behalf of large service providers over the years. 

The worst one, or at least the one that springs immediately to mind, has to do with British Gas attempting to take my mother to court over an unpaid gas and electricity bill. That the rather large bill in question represented charges levied post my grandfather&#039;s death, the closure of his account, the subsequent sale of the house, and the establishment of a new account under the name of the house&#039;s new owners seemed to matter not a jot. They also seemed to miss the fact that, as a consequence of their organisational stupidity and insensitivity, and my Mum&#039;s understandable upset and fury, they were under investigation by the ombudsman.   

You are aware that it&#039;s relatively easy to sic a lawyer on their arses? Think it is anyway, a friend of mine paid someone a very small amount of money to get their pennies back from Setanta when actually providing a service proved too difficult for them. Not as difficult, apparently, as taking his money over a period of months</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor you, Andrew. I&#8217;ve heard far too many tales of organisational fuckedness on the the behalf of large service providers over the years. </p>
<p>The worst one, or at least the one that springs immediately to mind, has to do with British Gas attempting to take my mother to court over an unpaid gas and electricity bill. That the rather large bill in question represented charges levied post my grandfather&#8217;s death, the closure of his account, the subsequent sale of the house, and the establishment of a new account under the name of the house&#8217;s new owners seemed to matter not a jot. They also seemed to miss the fact that, as a consequence of their organisational stupidity and insensitivity, and my Mum&#8217;s understandable upset and fury, they were under investigation by the ombudsman.   </p>
<p>You are aware that it&#8217;s relatively easy to sic a lawyer on their arses? Think it is anyway, a friend of mine paid someone a very small amount of money to get their pennies back from Setanta when actually providing a service proved too difficult for them. Not as difficult, apparently, as taking his money over a period of months</p>
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		<title>By: MatGB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MatGB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our experience with Virgin has been pretty good, definitely better than any other ISP I&#039;ve dealt with.

My esperience with Tiscali was back before I moved to London—there was an issue with my dial-up connection that they simply wouldn&#039;t fix, and it was blocking me from accessing a website I was co-admin for at the time.

I eventually tried a pay-per-minute Wanadoo (now something else, Orange?) connection and got there first time. 

A year later, Tiscali threatened me with bailiffs as they&#039;d never cancelled my account.  I&#039;m guessing they all have good and bad times.  

I recall when my student house got Eurobell installed (before they also merged into Virgin) the subcontractor made a massive botch of the job, the head of region visited, got it all fixed and gave us several months free as an apology, that impressed me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our experience with Virgin has been pretty good, definitely better than any other ISP I&#8217;ve dealt with.</p>
<p>My esperience with Tiscali was back before I moved to London—there was an issue with my dial-up connection that they simply wouldn&#8217;t fix, and it was blocking me from accessing a website I was co-admin for at the time.</p>
<p>I eventually tried a pay-per-minute Wanadoo (now something else, Orange?) connection and got there first time. </p>
<p>A year later, Tiscali threatened me with bailiffs as they&#8217;d never cancelled my account.  I&#8217;m guessing they all have good and bad times.  </p>
<p>I recall when my student house got Eurobell installed (before they also merged into Virgin) the subcontractor made a massive botch of the job, the head of region visited, got it all fixed and gave us several months free as an apology, that impressed me.</p>
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		<title>By: LemmusLemmus</title>
		<link>http://andrewhickey.info/2009/06/25/a-tale-of-two-telephone-companies/comment-page-1/#comment-2293</link>
		<dc:creator>LemmusLemmus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O.k., I was probably imposing the idea I developed about my own experience on yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O.k., I was probably imposing the idea I developed about my own experience on yours.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Hickey</title>
		<link>http://andrewhickey.info/2009/06/25/a-tale-of-two-telephone-companies/comment-page-1/#comment-2292</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Hickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve only *been* a customer of BT for two months, and nearly everything I&#039;ve just described was before they &#039;lost&#039; me, starting with them connecting us a week *later* than they said they would, and having it be a crossed line...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve only *been* a customer of BT for two months, and nearly everything I&#8217;ve just described was before they &#8216;lost&#8217; me, starting with them connecting us a week *later* than they said they would, and having it be a crossed line&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: LemmusLemmus</title>
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		<dc:creator>LemmusLemmus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand your anger, but you should consider yourself lucky you never had to deal with Deutsche Telekom. Three and a half months, I&#039;ll say no more.

I will say this, though: Your comparison between the two phone companies is not a fair one - one of them know they&#039;ve lost you as a customer and treat you accordingly, the other are trying to win you as a new customer. Mind you, I still think that BT&#039;s behaviour is a bad business decision - if I&#039;m not misinterpreting your post, you&#039;ll never ever do business with them again. Just like I won&#039;t ever do business again with a certain company I promised not to mention anymore in the course of this comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand your anger, but you should consider yourself lucky you never had to deal with Deutsche Telekom. Three and a half months, I&#8217;ll say no more.</p>
<p>I will say this, though: Your comparison between the two phone companies is not a fair one &#8211; one of them know they&#8217;ve lost you as a customer and treat you accordingly, the other are trying to win you as a new customer. Mind you, I still think that BT&#8217;s behaviour is a bad business decision &#8211; if I&#8217;m not misinterpreting your post, you&#8217;ll never ever do business with them again. Just like I won&#8217;t ever do business again with a certain company I promised not to mention anymore in the course of this comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Anders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny as my experience was the exact opposite.  I have always vowed to use BT if a line is already installed and never to use Tiscali again.  Still, they are both 100 times better than the old NTL service (I have no idea whether they are better now they are Virgin Media).  It just seems that all telecoms companies fail you in the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny as my experience was the exact opposite.  I have always vowed to use BT if a line is already installed and never to use Tiscali again.  Still, they are both 100 times better than the old NTL service (I have no idea whether they are better now they are Virgin Media).  It just seems that all telecoms companies fail you in the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Senior</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Senior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sympathise , I finally managed to get rid of BT completely 9 months ago , the line rental being the final thing to be disposed of . I am also with Tiscali and so far touch wood all is still ok .
  Bt also tried to charge me 6 months for broadband connection rental after I had cancelled part way through the contract but their claims for payment for this period were met with claims on my part for breach of contract for failure to provide a service .
  The sooner BT go out of business the better .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sympathise , I finally managed to get rid of BT completely 9 months ago , the line rental being the final thing to be disposed of . I am also with Tiscali and so far touch wood all is still ok .<br />
  Bt also tried to charge me 6 months for broadband connection rental after I had cancelled part way through the contract but their claims for payment for this period were met with claims on my part for breach of contract for failure to provide a service .<br />
  The sooner BT go out of business the better .</p>
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