“but political discrimination is just as deplorable as racial discrimination.”
No it isn’t. One is based on a characteristic people are born with, which doesn’t affect their character or personality in the slightest. The other is based on decisions people have made which reflect their thoughts and personality.

“If you’d READ more of his post than the first line, he mentions, for instance, an exception for immediate family members, such as spouses.”
And if *you* had read my original post, you would see that those exceptions he talks about *do not exist*. Racist UKIP’s policies are very, very clear and allow for no exceptions. In other words, the person I was replying to was a liar, as well as voting for a racist party.

“As such, I highly doubt that his voting for UKIP means he voted for a policy that said you couldn’t get married or be with the person you love.”
I don’t care what you ‘highly doubt’. He *did* vote for Racist UKIP, Racist UKIP’s policy *is* to ban all immigration, even for marriage, and so yes, he *did* vote for that policy.

“I simply ask, as someone who observes but doesn’t participate in EU politics, that you actually try to understand your opponents.”
I understand them all too well. Racist UKIP are an organisation whose sole raison d’etre is hatred and fear of foreigners.

If you’d READ more of his post than the first line, he mentions, for instance, an exception for immediate family members, such as spouses. As such, I highly doubt that his voting for UKIP means he voted for a policy that said you couldn’t get married or be with the person you love.

I know its an old thread, but I simply ask, as someone who observes but doesn’t participate in EU politics, that you actually try to understand your opponents.

Anyone with any experience of the immigration system will tell you that we *do not* have an ‘open door’ – not that such a thing would be bad anyway.

Whether you are racist or not – and your voting for and supporting UKIP does nothing to convince me you’re not – you *DID* vote for a policy that would have meant I could never have got married, and that if put in place would make other people suffer as much as I would have if I hadn’t been able to be with the woman I love more than life itself. So I hope you won’t take it the wrong way when I say I hope that you and all your ilk die, soon, in extreme pain.

Now fuck off.

Thankfully those within the party who did hold such views have left and joined the BNP. It doesn’t help when the media keep labeling you as being “anti-immigrant” that you end up attracting those very people. But Nigel Farage has done a good job in getting rid of them.

UKIP immigration policy is simple – open doors led to a wave of migration which put tension on communities. It has. Unfortunately it has given fuel to the real extremists and racists and made the situation much worse.

UKIP policy is for a points based immigration system, which treats EVERY foreign national equally, and which is within the control of the democratically elected government and parliament.

Okay, the 5 year freeze makes many in UKIP uneasy, especially us younger members, and is now not needed so much as the economic situation has led to a reversing of European migration.

But do not misunderstand UKIP. We want to address immigration in a non-racist manner (if only the media, etc, would let us). We do not want to stop immigration. Nor do we want to ‘send people home’ (the BNP policy). We have simply called for there to be a controlled system of immigration rather than an open door which leaves the government powerless to respond to concerns of voters.

Not talking about immigration – which Lib-Dem, Tory and Labour are guilty of – simply breeds extremism. The BNP success is of YOUR own making. Can’t you see that?

What is racist about having control over your borders like virtually every other country in the world?

UKIP has said that exceptions to our immigration policy would be immediate family (marriage, dependents, etc), asylum seekers, and that migrant workers would be treated separately under a work permit system.

We had a UKIP supporter working for us in our old workplace , he accidently let slip his immigration policies one day– now we have a pretty multicultural office so im sure you can imagine the reaction , this guy was converted to normality within the space of one day — further to that he was in tears too — a grown man lol

All racists can be converted with well reasoned arguments. They are just cowards with thier own differing selective immigration policies — the severity of which differs from one coward to another, one will say ‘keep eastern europeans — the ones that look whitish, get rid of the rest’, another will say ‘keep the sexy pakistani working in boots because i get a hard on’ but get rid of the rest , another will say –’ keep black people cos they can play footy’.

You know what is worse than immigrants in this country — fukkin lazy useless home grown chavs , there are absolutely fukkin millions of them.