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		<title>By: Doomkopf.com &#187; The Doomino Effect for Oct 22, 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doomkopf.com &#187; The Doomino Effect for Oct 22, 2008]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and it can obviously lead to a rewarding reading experience. The key difference, of course, is that songs like &#8220;Raspberry Beret&#8221; are fantastic pop songs — they don&#8217;t have to be forgiven or defended based on their [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and it can obviously lead to a rewarding reading experience. The key difference, of course, is that songs like &#8220;Raspberry Beret&#8221; are fantastic pop songs — they don&#8217;t have to be forgiven or defended based on their [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Allison</title>
		<link>http://andrewhickey.info/2008/08/09/crisis-what-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Allison]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man would I ever love to read the Morrison written event comic &quot;&lt;i&gt;in which YOU provide the story!!!&lt;/i&gt;&quot; -- in an ideal world it would be drawn by Brendan McCarthy and it would come out once a month for the rest of time.

I wrote the &lt;a href=&quot;http://nearit.blogspot.com/2008/07/thought-that-wont-stop-thinking.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;post that compared Morrison&#039;s current writing style with Marnie Stern&#039;s approach to songwriting&lt;/a&gt;, by the way (that sentence sounds way more egocentric than it&#039;s supposed to -- sorry!).  

It occurs to me that &lt;i&gt;Final Crisis&lt;/i&gt; is the most extreme application of this form yet -- &lt;i&gt;Batman&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;Seven Soldiers&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;52&lt;/i&gt; all hint at a bigger picture that is just outside of the reader&#039;s perception, but they have clearer focal points for reader identification (Animal Man, Will Magnus, Batman, any one of the Seven Soldiers).  So far &lt;i&gt;Final Crisis&lt;/i&gt; has taken the decentred madness of Seven Soldiers #1 as its starting point and went nuts from there.  I love it, but I can see why it&#039;s not for everyone...

Also: thanks for linking to my posts on &lt;i&gt;The Filth&lt;/i&gt;!  I&#039;ve officially started to doubt my own sanity wrt that project, so it&#039;s good to know someone&#039;s reading all those dirty little words!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man would I ever love to read the Morrison written event comic &#8220;<i>in which YOU provide the story!!!</i>&#8221; &#8212; in an ideal world it would be drawn by Brendan McCarthy and it would come out once a month for the rest of time.</p>
<p>I wrote the <a href="http://nearit.blogspot.com/2008/07/thought-that-wont-stop-thinking.html" rel="nofollow">post that compared Morrison&#8217;s current writing style with Marnie Stern&#8217;s approach to songwriting</a>, by the way (that sentence sounds way more egocentric than it&#8217;s supposed to &#8212; sorry!).  </p>
<p>It occurs to me that <i>Final Crisis</i> is the most extreme application of this form yet &#8212; <i>Batman</i>, <i>Seven Soldiers</i> and <i>52</i> all hint at a bigger picture that is just outside of the reader&#8217;s perception, but they have clearer focal points for reader identification (Animal Man, Will Magnus, Batman, any one of the Seven Soldiers).  So far <i>Final Crisis</i> has taken the decentred madness of Seven Soldiers #1 as its starting point and went nuts from there.  I love it, but I can see why it&#8217;s not for everyone&#8230;</p>
<p>Also: thanks for linking to my posts on <i>The Filth</i>!  I&#8217;ve officially started to doubt my own sanity wrt that project, so it&#8217;s good to know someone&#8217;s reading all those dirty little words!</p>
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		<title>By: Bots'wana Beast</title>
		<link>http://andrewhickey.info/2008/08/09/crisis-what-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bots'wana Beast]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;I’m not sure there will ever be a collected version of “Final Crisis” itself, as the story makes no sense without the numerous offshoot miniseries and one-shots that have to be read to follow it. They close out issue #3 telling you three titles you have to read before coming back in two months for issue #4, so it’s an intentional thing.&lt;/b&gt;

This is errant nonsense though; what, the marketing man told you? To my shame, I stole/read Requiem which was pretty much an abysmal sop, a clip-show - and I &lt;i&gt;like&lt;/i&gt; J&#039;Onn; one that added absolutely nothing worthwhile to the series. This insistence on ratifying everything has been killing DC, over the piece, for nearly a decade to the extent I actually wish I knew &lt;i&gt;less&lt;/i&gt; about the boring midden that presently is the DC Universe so&#039;s to better enjoy Final Crisis as a comic in its own right. Which I absolutely could - it&#039;s very fastidious in creating an internal logic and introducing all the cast so far.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>I’m not sure there will ever be a collected version of “Final Crisis” itself, as the story makes no sense without the numerous offshoot miniseries and one-shots that have to be read to follow it. They close out issue #3 telling you three titles you have to read before coming back in two months for issue #4, so it’s an intentional thing.</b></p>
<p>This is errant nonsense though; what, the marketing man told you? To my shame, I stole/read Requiem which was pretty much an abysmal sop, a clip-show &#8211; and I <i>like</i> J&#8217;Onn; one that added absolutely nothing worthwhile to the series. This insistence on ratifying everything has been killing DC, over the piece, for nearly a decade to the extent I actually wish I knew <i>less</i> about the boring midden that presently is the DC Universe so&#8217;s to better enjoy Final Crisis as a comic in its own right. Which I absolutely could &#8211; it&#8217;s very fastidious in creating an internal logic and introducing all the cast so far.</p>
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		<title>By: bjooks</title>
		<link>http://andrewhickey.info/2008/08/09/crisis-what-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bjooks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[re: &quot;Countdown Remixed&quot;

I&#039;d thought about that just after Countdown ended, how a much tighter book could be put together by selectively editing it down to just a few issues, while including a few pages from the other minis, especially Death of the New Gods, which I thought thematically belonged in Countdown anyway.  After all -- one basically boiled down to nothing more than rebuilding Kirby&#039;s apocolyptic future, while the othe was about killing off his 4th world.  It&#039;s silly they were two separate minis, neither with enough story to fill their pages.

But now that Final Crisis is out and we realize just how little it all mattered, why bother?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: &#8220;Countdown Remixed&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d thought about that just after Countdown ended, how a much tighter book could be put together by selectively editing it down to just a few issues, while including a few pages from the other minis, especially Death of the New Gods, which I thought thematically belonged in Countdown anyway.  After all &#8212; one basically boiled down to nothing more than rebuilding Kirby&#8217;s apocolyptic future, while the othe was about killing off his 4th world.  It&#8217;s silly they were two separate minis, neither with enough story to fill their pages.</p>
<p>But now that Final Crisis is out and we realize just how little it all mattered, why bother?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure there will ever be a collected version of &quot;Final Crisis&quot; itself, as the story makes no sense without the numerous offshoot miniseries and one-shots that have to be read to follow it. They close out issue #3 telling you three titles you have to read before coming back in two months for issue #4, so it&#039;s an intentional thing. I&#039;m not saying &quot;Countdown&quot; was a good read by any means (it was, as you said, a waste of 53 weeks of comics for those who didn&#039;t give up on it two issues in like I did), but at least it was a cohesive story for the most part. There were a few offshoot stories and miniseries (like Arena and The Search for Ray Palmer), but if you skipped them you didn&#039;t miss what was going on in the main storyline.

I think &quot;Crisis on Infinite Earths&quot;, for all its fluff sometimes, was at least a complete story in and of itself and had iconic moments that made sense. DC killed a major character who&#039;d been around for decades in the first issue, and they did it in two panels (while telling you to read &quot;Requiem&quot; for the send off), whereas Barry Allen and Supergirl both died in CoIE after prolonged battle scenes that gave them the chance to go out as heroes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure there will ever be a collected version of &#8220;Final Crisis&#8221; itself, as the story makes no sense without the numerous offshoot miniseries and one-shots that have to be read to follow it. They close out issue #3 telling you three titles you have to read before coming back in two months for issue #4, so it&#8217;s an intentional thing. I&#8217;m not saying &#8220;Countdown&#8221; was a good read by any means (it was, as you said, a waste of 53 weeks of comics for those who didn&#8217;t give up on it two issues in like I did), but at least it was a cohesive story for the most part. There were a few offshoot stories and miniseries (like Arena and The Search for Ray Palmer), but if you skipped them you didn&#8217;t miss what was going on in the main storyline.</p>
<p>I think &#8220;Crisis on Infinite Earths&#8221;, for all its fluff sometimes, was at least a complete story in and of itself and had iconic moments that made sense. DC killed a major character who&#8217;d been around for decades in the first issue, and they did it in two panels (while telling you to read &#8220;Requiem&#8221; for the send off), whereas Barry Allen and Supergirl both died in CoIE after prolonged battle scenes that gave them the chance to go out as heroes.</p>
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		<title>By: olsenbloom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[olsenbloom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 01:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah - I was pretty sure Eno had done something similar, but not sure enough to mention him. I&#039;ve tried doing similar things with my various bands, but always had the problem of not having enough studio time to get the track interesting enough *without* the basic instrumental track.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah &#8211; I was pretty sure Eno had done something similar, but not sure enough to mention him. I&#8217;ve tried doing similar things with my various bands, but always had the problem of not having enough studio time to get the track interesting enough *without* the basic instrumental track.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 01:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m pretty sure &quot;Kiss&quot; and &quot;When Doves Cry&quot; might&#039;ve been composed in this way as well. See also Brian Eno&#039;s &quot;subtractive&quot; production process as used on his classic 70&#039;s albums.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure &#8220;Kiss&#8221; and &#8220;When Doves Cry&#8221; might&#8217;ve been composed in this way as well. See also Brian Eno&#8217;s &#8220;subtractive&#8221; production process as used on his classic 70&#8242;s albums.</p>
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